http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/in ... spx?i=3101
Also looks like they are going to be targeting the enthusiasts market with the showing of an out of the world OC setup.
Looks like Penryn is well on its way
Would these new 45nm CPUs be in the realm of the budget minded buyer like myself, or will I most likely still be purchasing a current Core 2 Duo?
Also, are the new AMD "true quad core" CPUs that people have been talking about on vent coming out before November?
Also, are the new AMD "true quad core" CPUs that people have been talking about on vent coming out before November?
Cheers, Damnidge
Well, they will be the replacements for the C2Ds. And I cannot think of all of the names off of the top of my head, but I believe that merom is the mobile chip, conrole/allandale is the desktop chip, clovertown is Xeon, and kentsfield is the quad.
I think that peryn is actually the replacement for clovertown.
I am not sure if they consider this an evolutionary or a revolutionary update. I am guessing an evolutionary
So, if you don't get one of the new ones, at least it will push down the price of the current family.
I am not sure how to answer the AMD question right now. They have only released their server chips. And by release, I mean they showed them off at a press conference. I don't think that you can actually purchase any at this time.
Regardless, if you purchase today from scratch, by AMD and Intel are offering capabilities within each other's price range. There are two problems with that. One, AMD is losing money left and right while Intel is making money. Two, if you are interested in overclocking, there is no discussion, buy Intel.
I think that peryn is actually the replacement for clovertown.
I am not sure if they consider this an evolutionary or a revolutionary update. I am guessing an evolutionary
So, if you don't get one of the new ones, at least it will push down the price of the current family.
I am not sure how to answer the AMD question right now. They have only released their server chips. And by release, I mean they showed them off at a press conference. I don't think that you can actually purchase any at this time.
Regardless, if you purchase today from scratch, by AMD and Intel are offering capabilities within each other's price range. There are two problems with that. One, AMD is losing money left and right while Intel is making money. Two, if you are interested in overclocking, there is no discussion, buy Intel.
I'm not quite sure what you mean. I got the last part - if I want to over-clock (which I am thinking of trying for the first time with my new machine) then buy Intel. The part I'm not sure of is the comment about buying from scratch/capabilities within range and losing money. Are you simply saying since AMD is not doing well they will not be able to produce as nice a chip?zeus wrote:Regardless, if you purchase today from scratch, by AMD and Intel are offering capabilities within each other's price range. There are two problems with that. One, AMD is losing money left and right while Intel is making money. Two, if you are interested in over-clocking, there is no discussion, buy Intel.
I am leaning towards buying Intel right now just because the majority of people and web pages seem to point that way, I just didn't want to make a wrong move. I currently have an AMD Athlon 64 which is pretty powerful (well it was at the time and it is to me after leaving the crappy mac power pc world) but the socket 754 architecture was very problematic for me as a new system builder. The problem seemed to be all over the motherboards, and AMD was blaming the board makers, and the makers were blaming AMD. The main issue was it forced DDR400 to run at DDR333 for about a year until a firmware update fixed it.
I have a core 2 duo on my new work laptop, and it seems pretty fast - esp. considering it is a mobile chip.
I just hope the new processors are out far enough in front of November that the prices go down on the older chips. My stipend that will buy my new machine comes Nov 30, so I was going to order the parts the first week of Nov. :cheers:
Are there any good sites that speak about when the new 45nm cpus will be released?
(sorry for all the tech questions)
Cheers, Damnidge
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Well, according to that article:
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Penryn is coming, we've previewed it already and we should get more performance data at the show. The official launch date is November 12th, and Penryn is the first of 20 microprocessors being developed on 45nm. The introduction in November will be for servers and high end desktops, followed by a mainstream release in Q1 2008.
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I would imagine that it will probably be tough to get one until Jan. Though, when the C2D were first released you could purchase them within a couple of days, if I remember correctly.
What I mean about building from scratch is you are not upgrading. For instance, AMD people are currently dealing with 939 and AM2 motherboards with AM3 coming down the pipe. Intel is dealing with 775 for most processors, but not all motherboards will support the newest chips.
For instance, I already have C2D (E6300). My upgrade I am considering is to a Q6600 (quad core). I can do that. I am not sure I can go to say a 6750 because the FSB is a bit faster. I think I can OC my FSB to match... I will have to check on that.
I am getting concerned that AMD is losing so much money ($2B in the last year I believe) that their future is in doubt. I would imagine that they would get bought out and parted out if that happens. I think that their best bet is to design something such that their CPUs and video cards provide an advantage over Intel and anything else. But that is just a shot in the dark from me.
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Penryn is coming, we've previewed it already and we should get more performance data at the show. The official launch date is November 12th, and Penryn is the first of 20 microprocessors being developed on 45nm. The introduction in November will be for servers and high end desktops, followed by a mainstream release in Q1 2008.
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I would imagine that it will probably be tough to get one until Jan. Though, when the C2D were first released you could purchase them within a couple of days, if I remember correctly.
What I mean about building from scratch is you are not upgrading. For instance, AMD people are currently dealing with 939 and AM2 motherboards with AM3 coming down the pipe. Intel is dealing with 775 for most processors, but not all motherboards will support the newest chips.
For instance, I already have C2D (E6300). My upgrade I am considering is to a Q6600 (quad core). I can do that. I am not sure I can go to say a 6750 because the FSB is a bit faster. I think I can OC my FSB to match... I will have to check on that.
I am getting concerned that AMD is losing so much money ($2B in the last year I believe) that their future is in doubt. I would imagine that they would get bought out and parted out if that happens. I think that their best bet is to design something such that their CPUs and video cards provide an advantage over Intel and anything else. But that is just a shot in the dark from me.
