Energy Leech not working with Triple Damage

[hamsterman]

I have deduced that Energy Leech doesn't work right when Triple Damage is activated. Other players told me I was wrong, so I need to get to the bottom of this.

What I know:

When using Link Gun of Infinity against Luci,
-Triple Damage inactive, adren goes up at a high rate
-Triple Damage active, adren falls

When using Triple Damage and shooting nothing, adren falls at a similar rate as when shooting Luci with Triple Damage active. This rate is noticeably slower than the rate that adren is gained when shooting Luci without Triple Damage.

When a Link Gun of Energy is used against Luci, I gain more than enough adren to power Triple Damage and Globe. According to the Wiki, Energy +4 converts 4% of damage dealt to adren, so it is roughly the same as Energy Leech Level 4. If Energy Leech did work with Triple, and cannot power it alone, the Energy weapon should not be able to power both Triple and Globe, because its rate of adren gain is less than Energy Leech Level 5, and Globe consumes more adren than Triple.

So, I conclude that Energy Leech is nerfed when Triple is active, but the similar ability of Energy weapons still works.

Can someone confirm this or shed some light on it?

[DW_WailofSuicide]

Energy leech (AM ability) does not work while artifacts are active (but Energy weapons do).

[hamsterman]

Well, that settles it. Mister "it's all in your head" was wrong.

[DW_Ant]

wait wait wait wait....

You telling me that the only thing supporting my globe, triple, & lightning rod, or whatever I'm using in the crowd of a million monsters is only the little energy coming from the gun? I thought maxing my energy leech will help me out support these things.

Though, my surge really helps me out survive, or is that part of the energy gun, too?

You stunned me Wail. I've learned something today.

[hamsterman]

Well, the adren you get from killing sprees is quite massive. I can sustain my Triple easily using Null MP5. I guess Energy Leech was nerfed to bring adren masters down to the same level as other classes? I can see that if it worked with artifacts, adren masters would be unstoppable, since any weapon would be able to sustain Triple + Globe.

[Tazcrosblade_]

doesnt that seem like an insane design flaw?

[DW_WailofSuicide]

You still get adrenaline from killing monsters, and you still get adrenaline from sprees. Single monsters can give you ~50 adrenaline or so (mostly, IMO, because some of the monsters running on the server have inflated points values). Sprees are also liable to give back quite a bit of adrenaline.

The energy weapon is mostly just the tool that picks up the slack in between kills.

[DW_Ant]

Well, the adren you get from killing sprees is quite massive. I can sustain my Triple easily using Null MP5.

Yeah I have no problem with triple damage since you're killing things 3 times faster. But the globe is a bit tough to support when you're killing at the same rate.

[hamburger]

Energy Leech just work like Weapon Master Vamp. Except Vamp recover health.

You recover adren when you shoot at monsters with other type of weapons when your artifacts aren't activated.