Whoring of MP5?

[Jon!]

the minigun is a really low damage weapon, despite the fact it is sort of beefy-looking. It's just one of the weirdnesses of UT2k4.

[Seven_of_69]

The mp5 may be a bit overpowered but I wouldn't change it. The assault rifle is a joke. You'd do more damage to monsters by throwing your translocator beacon at them. The mini gun is underpowered but usable and is useful as a secondary weapon.

[Thwart]

yea i remember something, was like 3-4 weeks ago.
i dunno who it was but it was a medic, in choco's domeofdoom, sitting high up top in one of the boxes with the medic mp5, and at the end of the he had around 2500-3000 scorepoints.

How about people stop making boring/easy maps?

I found that if a map didn't have all these ridiculously easy "safe spots," there wouldn't be any worries on how many points one might obtain. Players would be working together to try to survive. I find that more fun than just sitting up somewhere high watching the action from the outside. In this case, it wouldn't matter if a medic was using an mp5.

[Corky]

:banghead:

whose with me

[HellBrYnger]

in the end, we know nothing will change on this case so, yeah..

[Jon!]

How about people stop making boring/easy maps?

I found that if a map didn't have all these ridiculously easy "safe spots," there wouldn't be any worries on how many points one might obtain. Players would be working together to try to survive. I find that more fun than just sitting up somewhere high watching the action from the outside. In this case, it wouldn't matter if a medic was using an mp5.[/quote]

I'm in with you too guys ^_^ :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

thwart... you know how you survive on Kotam with a level 40 AM with almost no DR? You sit in spec for 14 maybe 15 waves. No thanks.

[Thwart]

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thwart... you know how you survive on Kotam with a level 40 AM with almost no DR? You sit in spec for 14 maybe 15 waves. No thanks.

I feel you need balance. The Dome of Doom maps, The end Map, and etc. just allows people to stand in one area and snipe out the monsters hence the frustrations with this MP5 issue.
But hey, all this really is is complaining. People will always find reasons why they can't enjoy the game if things aren't going their way. I suppose they can just find another server to join.

[MageKnight]

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thwart... you know how you survive on Kotam with a level 40 AM with almost no DR? You sit in spec for 14 maybe 15 waves. No thanks.

I feel you need balance. The Dome of Doom maps, The end Map, and etc. just allows people to stand in one area and snipe out the monsters hence the frustrations with this MP5 issue.
But hey, all this really is is complaining. People will always find reasons why they can't enjoy the game if things aren't going their way. I suppose they can just find another server to join.

Huh? wat about things going my way? No for the last time im not whining!!! :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: Im just lightly discussing how the game can be make fairer and better for the benefit of US ALL, from noobs to the "pros". Everyone just keep mum about several issues that should be highlighted, i believe the game would not be so enjoyable for the rest who are not medics, of whom are doing this shit:
:shootspam: :owned:

I could just follow their example, but if game after game can just be owned like that, i would start to feel extremely bored. The satisfaction of getting a high score from utter spamming of MP5 in 1 safe corner is still apparent but low as compared to the usage of at least a few unique weaps (and i never did mention NOT USING MP5 AT ALL, i did make the suggestion of it being changed, at least fixing the ewc glitch) depending on the situation. There is more glory to winning the game from Akbal to say, sumthing stupid like shootingrange. In fact no glory for the latter AT ALL.

[DW_FrankyTheFly]

There is more glory to winning the game from Akbal to say, sumthing stupid like shootingrange.

Well it was about time someone realise that! You're right there, the satisfaction of winning hard maps and knowing how to use all weapon depending of the situation is one of my first concern. Remember, the more stronger the team is mean more player could stay alive and the monster level have more chance staying LOW. Charing good weapon amongs player is therefore a priority on maps like akbals or Cheapshot Cavern.

The problem with the medic class is that the way it is "buld" it kinda "force" the player to have a "spam" way to use it. I'm not putting this on the player, but on the class itself. The way the EWC and the medic mp5 work now encourage this "spamy" way. Wail and Me already discuss about this matter, currently a medic mp5 + 2 EWC is more powerfull then any AM or WM mp5 making this gun totally overpowerd. This is why the power of EWC on medic gun will be reduce in the next update.

As for the mp5, I don't think we should remove it. We never had any problem with it untill the EWC was introduce (or when the overpowerd petri magic replace the null magic, hopefully this has been fixed too). So just be patient, and i'm sure this issue will be resolve.

[Jon!]

Honestly... this whole thing of the EWC is ridiculous. Ok, limit us to one use on a medic gun but don't go nerf it for all the medics. Total nonsense. I'm sorry but there's no other word for it. AMs and WMs get full power and the medics get much less. This is what you call balance? :sangry: :sangry: :sangry: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: