This is so ridiculous...

[SomethingToSay]

lol this is so ridiculous...











BRB getting 6 times more XP than the rest of the team COMBINED.



wtf?

[Thwart]

Time to nerf El Salvador's character!!!

Joking aside, he's probably just more aggressive than everyone else in getting to the monsters.

Don't feel bad, because not only is he fronting the team in these two screenshots, but he also fronts Franky whenever Franky gets the chance :stongue:

[El_Salvador_503]

Wow....common....only me you should screenshot every person that gets a high score then why only me?

[DW_WailofSuicide]

And that's why I prefer giving out experience based on objective/map completion.

[Capn_Crunch]

Wow....common....only me you should screenshot every person that gets a high score then why only me?

lol as if anyone else gets 800 points more than second place in under ten minutes...

[SomethingToSay]

Wow....common....only me you should screenshot every person that gets a high score then why only me?

lol as if anyone else gets 800 points more than second place in under ten minutes...

LOL this. Just like when you and I tried to explain to sal that Paladin class isn't OP just because it lives the longest -_-

If other people had 800+ points and nobody else even had 70, I'd screen them too


Funkyman's been blowing up the score sheet somehow too, on torlan and choco anyway using vehicles I think x_x and he's only like level 75 @_@

And that's why I prefer giving out experience based on objective/map completion.

Meaning the whole team gets the XP for the objectives I assume, otherwise youll just have people rush to the objectives to get the XP from them.

Nebri would be the highest scoreholder LOL

Time to nerf El Salvador's character!!!

Joking aside, he's probably just more aggressive than everyone else in getting to the monsters.

Don't feel bad, because not only is he fronting the team in these two screenshots, but he also fronts Franky whenever Franky gets the chance :stongue:

1. I don't think that's the only thing here, cuz I've seen Crunch and others be aggressive and they still don't get that high degree more points. If he IS just being ultra aggressive, that's still not really fair to other players, it'd be penalizing people for taking their time just because we don't chase points as much as someone and level up as fast (thus aren't as high a level) doesn't mean the higher level guy should get 90% of the game's points, no?

2. If this is true, Sal is really hurting the Berserk class, since Berserk players love to talk about how weak and easily they die, but if Sal is so insanely aggressive and doesn't die while others do... If you say "well it's because he's a high level" then berserks still can't complain since you could just say "wait til you're level 170 like sal and you won't have a problem dying"

@_@ I told sal in the server, I don't really care if he's on top of the score sheet most of the time, good for him, but to the DEGREE of which he blows everyone else away just doesn't seem fair, and most people seem to be aware of what a... we'll say point lover, he is. lol

He told me the reason he gets so many points is "knowing the maps"... well then I'd love to know what info he got nobody else did :C


He nearly has a rank 3 paladin too, is there anyone else with a rank 4 and 2 rank 3's? @_@

If what Thwart said was true, that he's just ultra aggressive, then if he hung back a bit more and treated it more like a team game, let other people do the objectives, etc. then I don't think it'd be as much of a problem.

[El_Salvador_503]

...Once again this is why I get good scores on any class I have 3 berserkers 4 supports and 2 paladins I have good experience with all of them...I know all maps from top to bottom I know what my main 3 classes are capable to do depending on the map my 187 berserker my 135 support and my 92 paladin. I know when to do certain things and when not to, I use all my abilities to their maximum effect..I use the map resources( keg DD shield ammo vehicles) the environment and the knowledge of the monsters...all that combined results to a decent score to me no matter what class I use...also depends on the team if a rank 4 playing a rank 4 map surrounded by a rank 1 and 2 players of course the rank 4 will get more... And on those screenshots I didn't even voted that map was a rank 2 pala that did they died and I am the highest berserker on server( tied with franky I think) was noty problem they voted that, I didn't want to play that map because I'm trying to get my pala to rank 3... Any ways ... Keep complaining ill always say same thing...Also the skill of the player is important too don't forget that....

[Thwart]

If what Thwart said was true, that he's just ultra aggressive, then if he hung back a bit more and treated it more like a team game, let other people do the objectives, etc. then I don't think it'd be as much of a problem.

You should change your name to "alottosay," especially if you like to play the lotto. Depending how you see it, both ways would fit you quite well then.

Anyway, you definitely decided to over analyze this. Regarding his ranks, he has been playing very regularly since the server went public.
The screenshots are based on Resident Unreal. There currently is not a level limiter on it like in opportunity knocks, colosseum, etc. I've been told that berserker classes do quite well in Resident Unreal if they have shout and depending on if they have enhanced ammo picks with ammo bonus or not. I think several factors come in to play: how often do you play, how you build your class, map level limitations, the match up with certain class abilities with what the map provides (some classes have an advantage in certain maps), and depending what team you have around you.

I wouldn't get jealous, but rather be happy that you have a high level character playing that map since you have a better chance in gaining more experience if you beat the map. We could set a level limiter in that map to accidently discourage Sal from playing it(that is never the intention but is often the result), but then you probably would have 0% chance of winning. Don't worry Sal, Ant won't put that much of a decrease of your exp on that map like getting 0 in opportunity knocks. That is based on the mappers discretion.
In the long run, it is nice and is beneficial for you to have high level players around. The level cap is 200, does it really matter if he gets there first before you? Although it might look like he's taking all the experience away from you on the surface, but you're actually gaining more experience than you actually would without him. Based on the screenshots, it looks like he is able to keep the match alive since several good players are already dead. C'mon you wouldn't be able to kill of those monsters that Sal did yourself would ya? Be honest...

[SomethingToSay]

...Once again this is why I get good scores on any class I have 3 berserkers 4 supports and 2 paladins I have good experience with all of them...I know all maps from top to bottom I know what my main 3 classes are capable to do depending on the map my 187 berserker my 135 support and my 92 paladin. I know when to do certain things and when not to, I use all my abilities to their maximum effect..I use the map resources( keg DD shield ammo vehicles) the environment and the knowledge of the monsters...all that combined results to a decent score to me no matter what class I use...also depends on the team if a rank 4 playing a rank 4 map surrounded by a rank 1 and 2 players of course the rank 4 will get more... And on those screenshots I didn't even voted that map was a rank 2 pala that did they died and I am the highest berserker on server( tied with franky I think) was noty problem they voted that, I didn't want to play that map because I'm trying to get my pala to rank 3... Any ways ... Keep complaining ill always say same thing...Also the skill of the player is important too don't forget that....

lol using keg and shield etc are things LOTS of people do though. I think, by the way(this is to Ant), that the way spirits are set up is terrible. It makes people save on the spirit and not use it until a certain point in the map when it adds threat at the right time, so it could be used to save someone, but they hold off because the threat boost is only for monsters alive. It's defeating the purpose of the spirit, which should be to help the team and keep them alive...



I'm wondering this: If you have 3 players who are same level, but 1 of each of the classes, and they have no adren to use any abilities, who gets the most XP? It seems to be the case that berserks do, because they have higher damage.

However, I talked to ant and I said "Ant, if I'm deciding to make a mocking weapon +3 but someone makes the same weapon just with +3 damage, which will do more for me in terms of XP?", since more damage under this assumption means more XP. He told me though, that the mocking would. He said the damage you do would make no difference in regards to how much XP you get, which I thought was weird, and he said it was all about threat.

However, if you have these 3 same level people and none have any threat, then shouldn't that mean regardless of damage, they end up with the same/very similar scores?



I know all about "certain classes get advantages on certain maps" etc etc. This is all common knowledge everyone knows. Yet outside of maybe franky or burek, not everyone is blowing the scoresheet away so badly, they may get a few hundred more, but THAT lopsided?



The problem with what you're saying thwart, is that Ant keeps nerfing the end game XP, so what does that matter? Iguazu crashes for everyone every time it's played, and only a few more maps give more than about 200 XP. I'd rather have Sal not being ridiculously aggressive and killing everything on the map and getting 600 points than sal killing everything and getting 25 points and then 200 from end game XP, wouldn't you?


I'm not whining about high level players one bit, you've missed the entire argument. The problem isn't that he has 3 high level players, it's that if you look at it, 3 high level players for Sal when nobody else has that is saying what? It's saying he's getting TONS of points, and nobody else is getting any. The problem is that sal tears through and shreds all the enemies and jumps on doomlords with mantas etc which gives HIM tons of points, but leaves everybody else with none.

[Capn_Crunch]

He nearly has a rank 3 paladin too, is there anyone else with a rank 4 and 2 rank 3's? @_@

Well, Mr. Roboto was the first person to do that and he did so many months ago.