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Zen
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I believe that honor goes to either USSR or Cain's Lair...DW use to be fun but now it's almost nothing but mega noob maps like bitchslap, tank wars, and battlefront. I use to be a pretty big whore on chainisile but I moved on...awfuls like Vic & Jackel are still totally incapable of doing anything but waiting for a tank to spawn. I know it's shitty to come to your forums and say this but when a noob in a tank has map lock for 45+ minutes it's retarded. I'd just like to see a little rotation of the real 32p maps that made 32p fun rather than an idiot festival. it seems like a lot of the DW members hardly even play there anymore...
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Zen wrote: I know it's shitty to come to your forums and say this ....
I do apologize, but yes it is rude, as well as retarted. BTW,...just curious,... who gives a rats ass what you think!?
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Zen
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nobody probably :compress:

regardless i'm telling you that having the server setup to run noob friendly spam festivals will sink the quality of the server though...same thing happened to the USSR server when chainisile and dreamus became the top picks. flame away all ya want @ me if it makes you feel good, but there are some truly awful maps on the server that get picked every time as soon as the cycle is reset.
DW_ToxicWaste
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Zen wrote:I believe that honor goes to either USSR or Cain's Lair...DW use to be fun but now it's almost nothing but mega noob maps like bitchslap, tank wars, and battlefront. I use to be a pretty big whore on chainisile but I moved on...awfuls like Vic & Jackel are still totally incapable of doing anything but waiting for a tank to spawn. I know it's shitty to come to your forums and say this but when a noob in a tank has map lock for 45+ minutes it's retarded. I'd just like to see a little rotation of the real 32p maps that made 32p fun rather than an idiot festival. it seems like a lot of the DW members hardly even play there anymore...
What "real" 32p maps do you speak of? I run every map specifically designed for 32p I can find.

You mention that Cain's Lair was the best, yet he never ran more than a total of 10-15 maps EVER (most of them the stock maps) and never really had the horsepower to handle them in their spammier moments. I'm not taking a shot at Cain, just trying to understand how you define Cain's as the best, when he never ran more than a handful of maps, most of which were completely unsuited to 32p. He ran them because they were well optimized and his hardware at the time could handle it. Cain's was fun because the game was still young, and a 32p server was a novelty, and you still had a lot of good players pubbing it up. Now the game is three years old, most of the "good" players are playing something else, or not pubbing anymore, and no one is making maps. So what should I do? Please explain it to me. It's easy to complain about an issue. The hard part is coming up with a solution.

I tried for a while to run only "good" 32p maps. You know what? My playership dropped in half because like it or not, the community that cares about "good" ONS maps is a LOT smaller that the community that cares about tank whoring, and driving a levi filled with 5 people. So you get to play with 10 other people on a good map instead of 31 other people on a mediocre one. Pick your poison.

There's already a server out there that caters to you, and that's the SCK server. If you tell me there's room for another server like that, and you'll bring people there, I would be happy to start one. Until then, you set your expectations correctly when you play here. This server is here for fun, and while I don't always understand the fun, most do and that's all that counts.

So if you have some constructive feedback, I'm all ears. Otherwise there's no need to dump on us for the sake of dumping.

Rich (TW)
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It depends on the map some of them are really bad, tank wars and battlefront for example. I can't stomach those and i usually end up leaving, dreamus however i do like. Might i mention the dreamuses are especially conducive to manta whoring.

The best way to get the map you want voted is to vote before the map is over.
DW_ToxicWaste
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OK, I have removed those two (I have seen other complaints on those), as well as Dark Side and The house (they were back for Xmas only anyway).

We have to be careful however in what we remove. The last time we did this, I removed probably half the maps and playership dropped precipitously.

The general playing community is attracted to crowds, more than they are attracted to maps. If someone sees a server with 30 people, and a bad map, or 4 people and a good map, 90% of the time they are going to the 30p server. Well it's these sort of "crap" stalemate maps that build the numbers and attract more people. So when a good map does come up, you have a decent number of players to play it on. So consider this when ranting about the lousy maps on the server.

Rich (TW)
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Maps like DryIce-ECE, Hollon2-SE, The old Spiffingrad (not TSE), Julia, Dinora, Sandcrack. Dawn & Dria usually worked ok from the stock maps as well. I'm not just whining because I would like to see things like "the good old days", but this trend of making maps that are 100% vehicle spam has got to stop. I know you have pretty much every ONS map avaliable on your server, but the crappers like Bitchslap still get picked right away every time.

No joke that a couple weeks ago when I re-installed UT, I went to the server browser and DW, UTPub, and Omnipotents were all on Battlefront. You mentioned that Cains had a limited map selection and not enough CPU, and that was true but the maps he ran were usually pretty good. The server did really take a dive in the later days when they had BF2 running on the server though, and the USSR server had it's share of issues as well to be fair.

Even though most people consider 32p ONS to be noob, in the past some really great players came from 32p and some great players use to visit the servers. DW has some good players but nothing good comes from the total vehicle ownage maps. Understand my frustration of being killed by a tank at least 25 times in a row spawning at 3 different nodes carefully dodging around, while my whole team just sat back trying not to get killed by uber tank whore guy. I don't know why it got me so riled up, I went at looked at the UT stats page and this guy has like 13,000 tank killed and 130 shock rifle kills...come on now, how bad can you be. Pomona playing in Japan could get 130 shock rifles kills in a day.
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