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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:29 pm
by DW_Hornet
10 is a way too low, i think around 18 is more suitable. Deemers are needed or maps wouldn't be as fun. Zax listed 8 maps earlier that would basically be the map rotation if we did 10 maps.

Torlan is just a bad map for 32p play, same with the other demo map primeval. The redeemer on the base maps just don't seem to work.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:02 pm
by DW_Bomzin
The list of maps that deemers need to go on is small.

Hornet is right , mostly the base maps are problems . Torlan , Severance are the first that come to mind . Severance is a great 32p map but the demers kill the fun.

There are just a couple more but they don't come to me right now. Personally I would like to see them off , there is no skill in a suicide demer and no way to really stop it once they are inbound.

Substandard maps that have some fun . Gunshop , Battlefeild , ooooo.... Raptor skies. Living room , or something like that . What about that old canyon map, the name eludes me . BGZ core , Dry Ice was always good.
Anything that isn't repetitive and playable . On that note I will not play Dreamus again , it is mindless and I have learned to hate it with a passion . Atleast with Bitchslap you can mix up your play alittle .

Yes I'm sick but I can't help myself. I'll think about it and get back with you .

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:45 am
by Cams
I consider a 40-50 maps line up with a 20 maps cycle would work great. Here is my personal opinion on most maps (- means "remove" if still in the server).

On the original ECE maps:

ONS-Adara (either GORZ or regular)
ONS-Arctic Stronghold (32 player version posted by Wail should work great)
ONS-Aridoom (Rocketcar version is fun)
ONS-Ascendancy (LE perhaps?)
- ONS-CBP2-Argento (dunno, never played it)
- ONS-CBP2-Mirage (dunno, never played it)
- ONS-CBP2-Tropica (dunno, never played it)
- ONS-CBP2-Valarna (dunno, never played it)
- ONS-Crossfire (OUT)
ONS-Dawn (standard)
ONS-Dria (Gorz 2 primaries version works better for a larger crowd)
- ONS-Frostbite (OUT)
- ONS-Icarus (don't remember if its good)
- ONS-IslandHop (OUT)
ONS-Primeval (X2 works great
- ONS-Red Planet (out, not even Gorz version)
- ONS-Severance (out, and that goes for maelseverance too in case it's still there)
ONS-Torlan (out, just leave 32p version which, works great for either large or small crowd)
ONS-Tricky (seems to be a popular pick, tho it kills the server after a while)
ONS-Urban (NoLevi is a keeper)


Dreamus-RC2 (works great for what it is)
Dreamus2 (a must)
SpiffingradSE-RC1 (works great too)
- ChainisleNoMines (out, server killer)
Chainisle2a (just leave this one and remove IslandHop aswell)
MinusTankmeup-Gorz (another servers favorite)
Spambox (well, its spambox)

Maelstrom (could try with the NoVehicles version to spicy things up)
Ahebaan
Bitchslap
ScorpionCanyon
TWMushroomForest
Tropic (just leave 1, either version is fine I guess)


Questionable but popular alright:

AirMars-Gorz-Beta5
VolcanoHigh (perhaps with a different link setup)
Nevermore-ECE-T32 (mixed feelings, but ok for 32 I guess)
Cataldi-Park (2 primaries version)
Hollon2-SE
Grit-Nights
Kingdom
Sanctuary
DesertedSands-f2-32p
Utilitarian (bad map IMO)
ColdFusion-T32
CBP2-Brassed
UCMP-ABC


I couple I could see comming back:

BGA-Core
DeathDome


Should be burned in hell next to Alpha's chair:

- ArcticConquestion-II-beta
- TheHouseXmas
- DarkMarsh
- ZeroImpact-32p


This gives a descent list of 35 to 40 maps and leaves room for about 10 maps that can be monthly betatested and switched if they are not fun enough.

Btw, sorry for the long post

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:46 pm
by DW_e_aLpHa
-What are you talking about Cams , I don't want those maps even near my house - and let me add AirMars , wich already was such a hatable map and then they make it gorz as in worst --sorry but to MPOV airmars-gorz is the worst map there will be in a thousand million lifes, i've been in some servers and they are running a bunch of fun maps, and the maps our people on SV love, are not even in the sights of those players on other servers , yet they stay and play , servers very full and going -

- As I said when the Dreamus-RC2 was released , I didn't liked that map like that, weapons are fine , bases were fine , but the nodes and node setup I had In mind was so much different than the way it is now , and Im sure IT would add that variety that it needs to really get close to be a 32p - map - .. I hate that node setup, I hate the enless battles over one node and all 32peeps concentrated in that single node , its just stupid , even torlan has more variety -

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:10 pm
by DW_damn_weasel
Ok… Cams, that post was way to long; Alpha, please change the font colors…
Rotations? Make it 15. I’m sick and tired of playing the same maps over and over, because Thank me up is not available and bunch of other cool maps are not available as well so I end up playing crapy map, like the one Zax saw me playing the other day.

Bring back Death Dome, that map whether you guys like it or not, it’s fun, and please please remove Severance, what a waste of 1and 0’s.

Quick suggestion, Utilitarian and I know this is easy for you guys, add Avril in the locker weapons at the core and more vehicles at the core, I don’t know maybe that toilet car that Alpha was using the other day.

Spambox, make it available every 5 maps…j/k I just love the spam. It’s tasty and yummy.
Well, those are my hundreds letters for you to read.
P.S.: Add the Doom of Death. Yeap I’ll request that map every single time I can. Oh and by the way, I’ve seen in other server that they add some cool stuff to your character, like a big giant head, or Halloween helmet, Santa’s bag now that we are in December and stuff like that, I think is crazy fun, you take the decision Toxic.
:cyclopsani:

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:46 pm
by DW_ToxicWaste
I've taken everything under advisement.

Map limit will be 15. Deemers, I'm not going to do anything about right now. Too complicated. Xmas muts will go on provided they do not lag the new server.

New server should be up and running by the weekend. I have high hopes for this beast, and if it does not work I may just take my ball and go home :pale:

Here is the new maplist on the new server. BTW Bomzin, Raptor Rage=spiffied up Raptor Skies. You'll see.

Maps=ONS-Dawn?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-CBP2-Brassed?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Hollon2-SE?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Utilitarian?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Tricky?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Tek?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Shyron1?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Ahebban?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Echo-102[ECE]?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Surripere-ECE?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Maelstrom?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Ascendancy-LE?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Torlan-32p?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-DesertedSands-f2-32p?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Urban-NoLevi?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-VolcanoHigh1?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-TwilightSE2?LinkSetup=MyLinkSetup?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Dreamus2-32p?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Adara?LinkSetup=MyLinkSetup?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Acerbus?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Araja-32p?LinkSetup=MyLinkSetup?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-BitchSlap(No_Slap_NoMines)?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Grit-Nights?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-ScorpionCanyon?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-ColdFusion-T32?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-AirMars-Gorz-Beta5?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-ChainsIsileNoMines?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Glanum-ECE-T32-ZBeta1?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-SPAMBOX-BETA3?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-SilvaBETA4?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-UCMP-ABC-ECE?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Dria-Gorz?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Primeval-X2-T32-ZBeta3?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Crossfire32-R3?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Darama-beta7?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Nevermore-ECE-T32?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Pyroclastic-R3?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-Stygian?LinkSetup=MyLinkSetup?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-(RTS)Kingdom?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-TWMushroomForest?GoalScore=2
Maps=ONS-TropicNightfall-32p
Maps=ONS-SpiffingradSE-RC1
Maps=ONS-Coldsteel-RC1
Maps=ONS-Dreamus-RC2
Maps=ONS-ChainsIsle2a
Maps=ONS-Minus-TankMeUp-Gorz
Maps=ONS-Cataldi-Park
Maps=ONS-Cosimia-32pRC0g
Maps=ONS-(RTS)RedBluff-ECE-32p
Maps=ONS-Ahebban-Summer-beta2
Maps=ONS-ArcticStronghold-T32
Maps=ONS-BGA-Core
Maps=ONS-Battlefront?LinkSetup=MyLinkSetup
Maps=ONS-CanyonRunSE
Maps=ONS-ClassicEvilDeadRedux2
Maps=ONS-D$K-Gunshop
Maps=ONS-DeathDome
Maps=ONS-DryIce-ECE-32p
Maps=ONS-Enchantment-T32-beta3-resize-K2
Maps=ONS-Maelstrom-NV
Maps=ONS-Minus-32p-BETA2
Maps=ONS-Raptors_Rage?LinkSetup=MyLinkSetup
Maps=ONS-STFUandJump?LinkSetup=2_way_street
Maps=ONS-Stonehaven-T32-Beta2-K1
Maps=ONS-ZeroImpact-32p

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:02 pm
by DW_Bomzin
Good looking map list

Grit Nights needs to go until the frames can be fixed once down to the prime node . Death Dome is also questionable on frames. Althought I have seen that map run great , alot of time there were complaints .

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:35 pm
by DW_ToxicWaste
All traditionally laggy maps, and all new maps will be under review to see how they work on the new server. I'm really hoping this new beast can handle it.

Rich (TW)

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:53 pm
by zeus
Woodcrests??? :cheers:

Clovertown?? :cheers: :cheers:

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:18 pm
by DW_ToxicWaste
Very close....


Kentsfield.



Rich (TW)