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I believe that honor goes to either USSR or Cain's Lair...

The post was best server out their . Neither one of those is still up and running . Atleast not running UT.

I understand were Zen comes from and also will not even bother with some maps anymore , ahem Bitchslap . Unless I'm in the mood . But there is also what the general populas is looking for this late in the game . The "good" 32 player maps are still there and we are always looking for good new ones . 32 player maps have always had a higher % of the so called noob and yes sometimes that percentage is higher then others.

Gather all your buddies up Zen come crash DW for some real 32 player action. Make it Pro. :cyclops:

Zen wrote:Maps like DryIce-ECE, Hollon2-SE, The old Spiffingrad (not TSE), Julia, Dinora, Sandcrack. Dawn & Dria usually worked ok from the stock maps as well. I'm not just whining because I would like to see things like "the good old days", but this trend of making maps that are 100% vehicle spam has got to stop. I know you have pretty much every ONS map avaliable on your server, but the crappers like Bitchslap still get picked right away every time.

No joke that a couple weeks ago when I re-installed UT, I went to the server browser and DW, UTPub, and Omnipotents were all on Battlefront. You mentioned that Cains had a limited map selection and not enough CPU, and that was true but the maps he ran were usually pretty good. The server did really take a dive in the later days when they had BF2 running on the server though, and the USSR server had it's share of issues as well to be fair.

Even though most people consider 32p ONS to be noob, in the past some really great players came from 32p and some great players use to visit the servers. DW has some good players but nothing good comes from the total vehicle ownage maps. Understand my frustration of being killed by a tank at least 25 times in a row spawning at 3 different nodes carefully dodging around, while my whole team just sat back trying not to get killed by uber tank whore guy. I don't know why it got me so riled up, I went at looked at the UT stats page and this guy has like 13,000 tank killed and 130 shock rifle kills...come on now, how bad can you be. Pomona playing in Japan could get 130 shock rifles kills in a day.

I completely understand the frustration, and I agree. I usually leave when bitchslap comes up myself. But I am in a difficult spot.

I run a 32p server. I run it for people to fool around and have fun, not compete. A lot of people like bitchslap and maps like it. I cannot explain it, and it makes me wretch, but for this server, I've chosen to create something that most everyone will like. At this point in the game, people who like "big" servers, like numbers, like vehicles, like spam. As I said, most of the really highly skilled players (like those you are talking about on ONS Central) are gone. So for me, it's about getting the numbers, getting the masses of people to play. And for that, I need maps with loads of vehicles, and loads of power and spam because at this stage, that's what most (not all) of the people like.

There's also a lot more competition out there. There's 5-6+ legitimate 32p servers out there, and there's not that many players. So what happens when those other servers start hopping? I get 4-6 people wandering in and out, and I never reach the critical mass I need to get to 32p. that's what happened when I got rid of a lot of these "crap" maps.

I'm all for intelligent constructive discussion, and if anyone has ideas to improve the playability for everyone to enjoy, I'm all for it. But right now, the server is what it is, and I really do not have a lot of options.

And agian Zen, if you want a server somewhere in between SV and SCK, ("good" custom maps) I'm all for it. But I need to know people are going to be interested and play there and enjoy it bacuse my spare time is practically non-existent, so I don't wnat to go through a days long exercise to have the place sit empty.

Do you think there's interest in such a thing?

Rich (TW)

I'm all for intelligent constructive discussion, and if anyone has ideas to improve the playability for everyone to enjoy, I'm all for it. But right now, the server is what it is, and I really do not have a lot of options.

Install UT2007 . :clown:

Well .. my buddy Zen here.. Is completely missing the point of my post here ..

I said SV is the BEST SERVER OUT THERE , and I will hold it , Until ::

I join another 32p server (or at least claiming to be) and I get to play a smooth lagless game with other 31 players on the most spammy fest map, like I do on THis SO GREAT Server !

Im not talking about the perfect ONS-professional SErver ! My boys im talking about our Evil Machine capable of handling loads of clients without generating PL because of CPU resources going low and OF COURSE , I talk about our people , those who you call noobs' because as them, we who play there all enjoy the FUN Spam Get's Us while playing .

1- CLR or USSR , im sorry but never got me such a nice experience while gaming on their servers me .. as noob .. as much as I enjoy on SV - and if they existed to be compared with SV on those aspects I just wrote , well They wouldn't even reach the 1st grade , where SV is a college graduate ...

2- None of those other existing 32p servers have the power Spam Vikings actually holds , are you kidding? even the tought of that makes no sense .. POWER baby POWER!!! .. where is it , who has it? actually Spam Vikings and thats my point here.


IF otherwise , show me .. just show me..


The game 'class' on Spam Vikings , thats another thing , thats already been discussed on another threads way long ago .. Spam Vikings it's what it is and people like it , a public server for nice people looking for fun and as always everybody is welcome.

All I've wrote here I did , not as a DW member, but as a person who knows wheres the place to play .. . yeah call me a noob, but a happy noob!! .. :)

@ aLpHa...not saying DW is a bad server, or a lesser server, but that the demographics of ONS pubbers has changed a bit even in the two years I have been playing. I understand that you guys are in a pickle needing to run maps that people want to play, and often those maps are not of the best quality...but yeah, maybe I was just pissed about tank whores again and again.

- Yeah Thats understandable my friend .. It happens to all of us . Then again as ol' wurlwind (from who we miss alot his winning) said .. Don't go away mad , just go away .. hehe -

What scares me about this whole thing is that most of us are sitting here, hoping UT2k7 will ride to the rescue and somehow re-ignite the community and make all of these things going wrong right now, go right somehow.

I got a bad feeling...

Rich (TW)

Are there any communities that don't deal with these types of issues?

Aren't people bitching about the new versions of Battlefield 1942.

Didn't Source have a whole bunch of critics when it got released?

I don't know about Halo...

What other FPS are out there?

I think that Doom3 was a bomb, wasn't it?

Zen wrote:...but yeah, maybe I was just pissed about tank whores again and again.

“Hi, my name is Weasel and I'm a Spam Vikings Addict...and a Tank Whore” :help:

“Welcome Weasel” :wav:

And this is what I love about this server; I’m always welcome, no matter what my addiction is.
And yes am a noob, can’t do Deathmatch, I’m too fuking far away and a crappy PC that I love very much. :newb:

SIlly but simple question ?

You say we are running bad maps but surely the maps that you consider bad are the better maps as they attract the most players ?

Surely a map with the best layout etc would still be considered a bad map if no one liked it ?

Hence why I would say that we arent running bad maps they are the best maps as they attract more players than others. Just because players who consider them selves pro or just hardcore dont like them becuase they arent exactly as they expect doesnt make them bad often the simplest ieas are the best bitchslap is a prime example.

Kae