Jons Return wrote:Boss knows a bit about teamwork from being on that UT map with no hides, was it irondeity? Anyway, I just think that if the quality is still climbing, just stop. No lower, no higher.
Best thing that has been said: Harry.adren.clay: They forget the noobs!
We had a lengthy discussion on server 1 when I said about this. Most did agree that it would make AMs hard to run, especially if you're not very good at Ut2k4 like me. Challenge? Try running across a whole map for a link gun with 100 HP and 160 dr and NO vamp or globe or triple...
It is easy enough to say. People don't want you to make anything harder, some were saying they would go over to WOP servers like Madness otherwise. a word of advice: You will lose about half of the under-100 adrens and the rest will not be happy. Even althos (lvl 150ish) said he would quit unless his medic improved if this happened. Sorry for long post :P
Jons Return wrote:it seems I decided to play as an adren at the wrong time... the time of the Highlevelism revolution.... whatever, I hate having to go out of a hide, get some kills then die and watch all the high players pwn the monsters just to use my mwm. I'm sure many players who play but are not on the forums who are newb AMs would agree with this, and the previous post. And in the end, when the Newb AM generation will become (in time) the generation who gives back an INCREDIBLE amount by tanking. I have never played when a map has been won without globe tankers. Just wait and see. I want to play an adren to give back. Now you lot want to take away just because you passed the stage where you needed adren. I'm not a great UT2004 player, I get beat down on AS ans ONS but I don't think only good players should have fun.
If they want to leave, then they can leave... There's a reason why MM1 and MM2 are some of the most popular UT2K4 servers out there. Not just Invasion but ALL gametypes. If they don't like it, there's no reason for them to play here. Let them go where they have fun. Not that we don't value them or their opinions, but as a clan we can't possibly cater to EVERYONE.
I've quit playing MM BECAUSE of maps that just spam Adren pills... I reached lvl 200+ back when there were almost no maps like this whatsoever, and that was about a year ago now. A few mappers decided to start putting super fast adren spawns everywhere on maps and it bothered me that I had worked so hard to level up and now anyone could take a level 45 AM, and just keep hitting the adren piles and make the top three. How unfair was that? I worked for it, they got it for free.
Back when I started my AM, I had my @$$ handed to me so many times I lost count... I took me weeks, no, months to get to the level my character is. I didn't need thousands upon thousands of Adren pills to level up, not only that, but they weren't around back then. Just stick to the game, rolling maybe just an inf link for the whole game and linking up may not be fun to you, but that got me and MANY others to the place they are today, not neccessarily the adren pills, (which as I said, have become the standard lately.) Not to mention, it just adds to teamwork as a whole.
The assertion that many players reached the level they are today by taking advantage of this adren is a naive one at best. Not only that but my first character (a medic) was out there dodge tanking luci any time there was no adren master around and sometimes when said adren master got smoked by luci. I've even tanked luci with my Medic so a bunch of low level AM's could link up and take him out since all three of them were too low level to tank themselves. Again another assertion you can throw out.
