Any more news on hardware requirements???
Offically Epic has never said when 2007 will be released, they always have emphasized that it will be ready when it is ready. I also believe that for the most part, any reasonably good system will run 2007 when it finally is out, as long as you can upgrade the videocard, then you won't have to worry. In any 3D game, its the videocard muscle that makes or breaks a game, and fortunately for all of us, the video cards keep getting faster and cheaper as time goes by, in addition to optionally turning the graphics settings and resolution down in the game settings if needed. If you buy a new system or build one, just make sure you can upgrade the video card, and don't settle for integrated graphics.
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I don't know about all those fancy numbers or stuff, but at least for UT2004 a good processor compensates for a cheap video card. Reason is, and my dad told me this and he's smart and stuff, is UT goes off a very extensive physics engine, which draws on the processor, not the video card. Not sure if that's the case with 2k7, but for now you don't need that great a video card.
It's a balancing act in terms of processor and videocard, but no matter how fast a cpu you have, if you have a slow video card, the gameplay will suffer visually. Processor is for physics, and all the non-visual things, whereas the video card is for nearly all the 3D stuff, which the processor couldn't handle in today's games like ut2004 etc. Some of the earliest 3D games could be played without a 3D video card, but that isn't possible anymore as the 3D graphic demands in any game made in the past couple of years has surpassed the ability of any cpu to possibly handle in realtime.
Since Vista will be out before UT2007, according to Microsoft, Vista will run games about 10-15% slower than on Windows XP.
http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34915
So if you want to have both, remember to up the power by 15% in order to have it run as well as your XP counterparts. lol....
http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34915
So if you want to have both, remember to up the power by 15% in order to have it run as well as your XP counterparts. lol....
I say my 9800 PRO and athlon 64 3400+ clawhammer will still keep up with all the new fangled poop people are gonna be spreadin' on themselves.
Your video card is THE weakest link, I suggest you give that to your wife sooner or later. The CPU is just fine (and its the same as mine :) ). I don't know about you guys, but I've seen that the two factors that most indicate video card performance (and really quality) are memory bits and pipes.
:banghead:
Just say no to anything that does not have 256-bit memory, that includes all the newest ATI pieces of junk. (I'm an ATI fanboy, but alas they've disappointed me :banghead: )
:cheers:
Pipes? Yes...plz and more pipes...yes plz. I think at this point you shouldn't go with anything less than 16 pipes. I'm guessing the prices go something like this:
pipes/price
16/100+
20/~200
24/~300
32 or more/Do you really give a flying rats ass about price?
I would suggest you NEVER buy mid range cards. For best price/performance, I would suggest buy the best card from the last generation. If you want to save money and must be an idiot and buy the current generation, buy the pro version of the cheapest card. It will be as good as a mid range and a whole lot cheaper. Or you could spend a bit more and get a dumbed down version of the flagship, but you have got to be very careful here. When I bought my 9800, I saw other versions (priced at $200) that ran UT slower than my 9200 pro(which was a $30 card). This kind of shell game is much more prevalent now with the proliferation of different versions of the same chipset.
By the way have you thought about getting a dock for your laptop? That way, your wife can use your laptop as a desktop at home and use a real keyboard and mouse.
Your video card is THE weakest link, I suggest you give that to your wife sooner or later. The CPU is just fine (and its the same as mine :) ). I don't know about you guys, but I've seen that the two factors that most indicate video card performance (and really quality) are memory bits and pipes.
:banghead:
Just say no to anything that does not have 256-bit memory, that includes all the newest ATI pieces of junk. (I'm an ATI fanboy, but alas they've disappointed me :banghead: )
:cheers:
Pipes? Yes...plz and more pipes...yes plz. I think at this point you shouldn't go with anything less than 16 pipes. I'm guessing the prices go something like this:
pipes/price
16/100+
20/~200
24/~300
32 or more/Do you really give a flying rats ass about price?
I would suggest you NEVER buy mid range cards. For best price/performance, I would suggest buy the best card from the last generation. If you want to save money and must be an idiot and buy the current generation, buy the pro version of the cheapest card. It will be as good as a mid range and a whole lot cheaper. Or you could spend a bit more and get a dumbed down version of the flagship, but you have got to be very careful here. When I bought my 9800, I saw other versions (priced at $200) that ran UT slower than my 9200 pro(which was a $30 card). This kind of shell game is much more prevalent now with the proliferation of different versions of the same chipset.
By the way have you thought about getting a dock for your laptop? That way, your wife can use your laptop as a desktop at home and use a real keyboard and mouse.
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only one destination: TOTAL ANNIHILATION!
Yeah, right now I am in wait mode.
I had a C2D system all priced out and ready to buy and build and the job situation went up into the air.
So, until that stabalizes, I am waiting. Which is fine because the technology is just going to get better.
I had a C2D system all priced out and ready to buy and build and the job situation went up into the air.
So, until that stabalizes, I am waiting. Which is fine because the technology is just going to get better.
Which is the exact reason I have been saying this thing is NOT going to be targeted at the PC gamers. UT2007 is a through and through PS3 game.DAMNIDGE wrote:I really have to disagree with how crazy people are saying the system requirements are going to be. It would be financial suicide to create a game that does not contain measures to include the "meat" of the gaming audience at the time of release. As much as we all want them, the water cooled, quad core, 5 gig, twin 7900 computers probably make up only 5% of the computers in this world that play online games (this is my guess, not a sited fact). Most people I think are around my position. 1 or 2 cores, 1-2 gigs of ram, a decent video card, and a lot of love for the game. If Epic were to release a game that required nothing less than the latest greatest card like I keep reading, they would loose a lot of money! People like me don’t have the money to quickly spend 1000 here and 500 there for the hardware on the drop of a dime. Now, do I think it is going to increase and push the envelope, and cause me to buy a x850 or similar agp card, of course, but I don’t think it will leave as many people in the cold as everyone is rumoring.
I dont know where you heard this but its not the case. GoW and UT2007 are completely different games. GoW is going to the X360, UT2007 is going to the PS3, the PC, and possibly the X360.DW_Hornet wrote:Gears of war is ps3, ut2007 is the pc version.
GoW looks like it is more a of "realistic" game. It uses the Unreal3 engine and I believe is written by Epic, but it looks like it is being marketing by MS. That is all I can tell from the website. I did not feel like sitting through their whole flash intro with the guy with the matches.