The Enhanced Weapon Charm issue

[Jinx]

You also have to understand that some people attach meaning to "Score" but "Score" actually means nothing. If you want to play a minigame of competing against other players on the "Scoreboard" that's fine but the only story that tells is whose bullet got the last hit, nothing else.

the score does have a meaning, clearly the higher the score, you more xp you earned.
you can't honestly say score means nothing when i can get 12000 points and about 40000xp, score does have it's take and its a team game, yeah but who ever it is that's scoring the most gets the most xp.

and i tried a Mp5 with 4 EWC and i BARELY even made it to 4000 and im not a noob, i know how to aim a damn mp5 but i can't see what the drama is all about, i noticed nothing other than raptors charging me died a bit before getting to me to hurt me, other than that no noticeable difference to me

[arucard]

I have tried it myself, but (a) I don't like playing boring spam maps, and (b) I play my AM more than my Medic. Also (c) I do actually go out of my way to heal people, not because I have to or because that's the only thing Medics should be doing, but because I like being a team player. It also happens that the couple times I've gotten one on my Medic (specifically Akbal and Crusoe) I ate a rock not shortly after. -- Such is life for someone who doesn't spawn with a Globe.

You also have to understand that some people attach meaning to "Score" but "Score" actually means nothing. If you want to play a minigame of competing against other players on the "Scoreboard" that's fine but the only story that tells is whose bullet got the last hit, nothing else.

When you said you tried it yourself, were you able to use the EWC? What were your observations? A number of players already attested to it on this thread.

[DW_WailofSuicide]

You also have to understand that some people attach meaning to "Score" but "Score" actually means nothing. If you want to play a minigame of competing against other players on the "Scoreboard" that's fine but the only story that tells is whose bullet got the last hit, nothing else.

the score does have a meaning, clearly the higher the score, you more xp you earned.

Does scoring the final hit on a monster yield more experience than all the hits before it? Sure, there's a correlation between score and experience but Score != Experience and there's no way to know what that correlation is from the score alone. That's why it's a useless metric (in addition to the fact that monster score values are pretty much arbitrary).

[moonshad]

Uh... Are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you just not understand that +# is irrelevant?

I have tried it myself, but (a) I don't like playing boring spam maps, and (b) I play my AM more than my Medic. Also (c) I do actually go out of my way to heal people, not because I have to or because that's the only thing Medics should be doing, but because I like being a team player. It also happens that the couple times I've gotten one on my Medic (specifically Akbal and Crusoe) I ate a rock not shortly after. -- Such is life for someone who doesn't spawn with a Globe.

You also have to understand that some people attach meaning to "Score" but "Score" actually means nothing. If you want to play a minigame of competing against other players on the "Scoreboard" that's fine but the only story that tells is whose bullet got the last hit, nothing else.


Yes I was being intentionally obtuse. Also I know that the score isnt what its about that wasnt my complaint. My complaint was that when he gets the modifiers he has nothing to worry about. Not only that but it cuts so far into others making exp that they sit and hide just to see if he dies. and dont bother to try to earn exp. Yesterday one player actually left cause he couldnt earn exp. Not that I saw his issue no guts no glory. I agree with being a team player also. there are many ways to earn exp. Alot of the players have flat out refused to have other link to them. As medic I have had many a laugh at the players that jump infront of me killing a mob only to die. All cause they wanted healing. Then they get mad when things dont work out for them. Makes it even more funny when they leave the game frustrated. I thought originally the EWC was supposed to avoid enhancing magic weapons all together. Or was it just the ones with the + modifier in the name.

[DW_WailofSuicide]

Yes I was being intentionally obtuse. Also I know that the score isnt what its about that wasnt my complaint. My complaint was that when he gets the modifiers he has nothing to worry about. Not only that but it cuts so far into others making exp that they sit and hide just to see if he dies. and dont bother to try to earn exp. Yesterday one player actually left cause he couldnt earn exp. Not that I saw his issue no guts no glory. I agree with being a team player also. there are many ways to earn exp. Alot of the players have flat out refused to have other link to them. As medic I have had many a laugh at the players that jump infront of me killing a mob only to die. All cause they wanted healing. Then they get mad when things dont work out for them. Makes it even more funny when they leave the game frustrated. I thought originally the EWC was supposed to avoid enhancing magic weapons all together. Or was it just the ones with the + modifier in the name.

I have a feeling English is not your native language. Feel free to try again.

[DW_FrankyTheFly]

thats exactly what i was talking about.
if you gave WM's 500 more levels of vampirism making them laugh at how much of a joke the globe is...for franky to spend his thousands of saved up points on, we wont hear "it's ridiculous that we have soooo much vamp and medics and adren dont have anything" out of him.

Let me refresh your memory there buddy : The overpowered petrification modifier that occurd seceral month ago was concerning the AM and WM classes and I was totally raging AGAINS IT. I even made a forum post to denonce it.

I gotta agree with Nightmorph, Cheap n Jinx. Its about time medics were able to use something decent that gives them the chance to actually be able to play and kill things instead of hiding in a corner healing people for near enough no xp. Franky i dont see how you can complain about this when you have never even played a medic character ON DW SERVERS not any other servers not any "old school" servers DW SERVERS, to me it makes all of your arguments totally baseless and unfounded.

I've played Medic in a server simmilar to UI and Monster Mash called GGA, in this server my medic was level 362 and I was the top scorer over all other players no matter the class or the level. In GGA they was no mp5, the inf medic gun was only 6% max damage and yet I was still number 1 because I'm competitive and I did enaugh TAM or DM to have the correct aim. And BTW I never complained about my 6% gun.


So I'm ready for a balance compromise, I admit that 6% for a medic gun is weak, but frankly 20% max on a medic gun is on my opinion a fair deal becuase it's equivalent to a real infinite +4 witch is 5% more dmg/+. And yes I agree to put damage back to 10% more dmg/+, 20% + triple is too much powerfull.

For me it's quite simple, if the inf medic gun is not cap at 20% i'm outta here because I won't play in an unbalance server.

[Jinx]

SOOOO, this thread has gotten way out of control...

[DW_Mobius]

Sorry Wail, but I'm going to step back out of this. I see this going the same way as last time I stepped in... 2-3 people getting their way, and everyone else getting something they like taken away, all in a failed attempt to "Restore balance," that by the way... Was NEVER there.

[moonshad]

I have a feeling English is not your native language. Feel free to try again.

Actually I speak english pretty well. I just happen to be a parent and very tired lol. Anyway I have said my piece I will let you guys fight it out.

[DW_SupernovA]

y'know, i'm all for balance among each class and whatnot. i agree that the medic shouldn't be overpowered, but neither should WMs or AMs. granted, i haven't been able to play as much as i would like (because this last semester was particularly rough and now for a couple of months i've been having computer issues), but i don't think it's fair to be giving ultimatums to get what you want. if you don't like something or disagree with it, it's one thing to post your opinion to the forums and discuss it in a polite and less demanding manner , but to say "do this or i won't play anymore" seems totally juvenile. why don't you let wail and whoever else test and play with a few things before you get your big girl panties in a wad.