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Seven_of_69
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I generally don't use weapons of the Mana Shield type. As a WM with max vamp I would rather take the health hit most of the time.

The downside of this magic type is that adren can be drained really fast. Last night on Helmzdeep I was using energy link+3 on Luci. My link ammo ran out so UT switched me to my mana shield minigun. Even though I was using a globe and had several hundred adren remaining, the next hit from Luci drained all my adren and I ghosted.

The next map we did Nutcracker's Lair. On Wave 15 I was globing and running low on adren so I fired a deemer hoping to gain a bunch of adren back with a nice Holy Shards kill. Well my deemer was of mana shield magic type so instead of gaining a nice pile of adren, I lost it all and ghosted. With seekers yanking at me, I barely made it back to an adren spawn and reactivated my globe just as the second last player went out. That mana shield deemer could've cost us the game. Doh!

Since a globe protects against damage, shouldn't there be zero adren lost due to monster "damage" while globing? I don't know if this could be considered a problem with the mana shield weapon or is just the nature of it. Either way it's something for players to be aware of. And before you tank Luci, you might want to discard your mana shield weapons along with your vorpal shock. :)
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Seven_of_69 wrote:I generally don't use weapons of the Mana Shield type. As a WM with max vamp I would rather take the health hit most of the time.

The downside of this magic type is that adren can be drained really fast. Last night on Helmzdeep I was using energy link+3 on Luci. My link ammo ran out so UT switched me to my mana shield minigun. Even though I was using a globe and had several hundred adren remaining, the next hit from Luci drained all my adren and I ghosted.

The next map we did Nutcracker's Lair. On Wave 15 I was globing and running low on adren so I fired a deemer hoping to gain a bunch of adren back with a nice Holy Shards kill. Well my deemer was of mana shield magic type so instead of gaining a nice pile of adren, I lost it all and ghosted. With seekers yanking at me, I barely made it back to an adren spawn and reactivated my globe just as the second last player went out. That mana shield deemer could've cost us the game. Doh!

Since a globe protects against damage, shouldn't there be zero adren lost due to monster "damage" while globing? I don't know if this could be considered a problem with the mana shield weapon or is just the nature of it. Either way it's something for players to be aware of. And before you tank Luci, you might want to discard your mana shield weapons along with your vorpal shock. :)
Mana Shield triggering when you're globing is fixed in the next version.
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Mana shield is one of the best weapons for AMs! Especially when you're playing a really tough map (little adren provied/no safe spots provided), and you're a low lvl am with no dr. Your solution is a mana shield weapon. Since AMs have adren leech, mana shield not only acts like a protector, but also enables a variation of vampiric ability.

Although it might be difficult to use a mwm in a map without adren, I think it's possible to copy it. Just ask your fellow teammates to copy some mana shield weapon.

I remember at Ashlar (no adren at that map), I was a lvl 28-35 (around there). With only 5 dr, maxed adren leech, max mana shield flak, I was dancing on wave 5 with a score nearly up to 1k! Mana Shield rules when you're an AM.

It does suck while globing though lol. If your a glober, just throw away your mana shield weaps or change them with your mwm.
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I hazent used many of these weaposn since i dont play much nemore but from what i have seen wail done a great job but is still working out the kinks :)
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TY Wail!

I gotta do something for ya some time :D
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Boss. please work your ''Arrangements'' with wail out in private, this forum is not for those kind of promises :)
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Yeah I know. It's gotta be a suprise >:)

But I have no idea what to do right now. So this may take a long time specially when you don't know any coding :(
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Seven_of_69
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WailofSuicide wrote:Mana Shield triggering when you're globing is fixed in the next version.
Good stuff! Thanks.
D2Boss wrote:Mana shield is one of the best weapons for AMs! Especially when you're playing a really tough map (little adren provied/no safe spots provided), and you're a low lvl am with no dr. Your solution is a mana shield weapon. Since AMs have adren leech, mana shield not only acts like a protector, but also enables a variation of vampiric ability.
That's interesting; I would've thought the opposite that it would not be a good weapon for AMs. But your explanation makes sense.
D2Boss wrote:It does suck while globing though lol. If your a glober, just throw away your mana shield weaps or change them with your mwm.
Yeah I learned that the hard way. :D As a WM, chances are I do NOT have a mwm by Wave 16 but that's beside the point.
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yea and since we are talking about wepons..how bout we get the ability to block certain wepons (bio,amril,...whatever) from being picked up...


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bigws wrote:yea and since we are talking about wepons..how bout we get the ability to block certain wepons (bio,amril,...whatever) from being picked up...


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This has been addressed and it's no biggie to push the \ button and be rid of it. Common people deal with it, it's almost automatic for me. I know I need to toss bio and grenade launcher, automatic reflex.
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