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WailofSuicide wrote:The map's asymmetrical but I kind of like that - There are small nuances to playing on each side. The middle node is slightly more protected from the bottom side, so that's a minor grievance, but I'm okay with the map as-is. Only things I'd really like to see are getting rid of the redeemer, getting rid of the spider mines, and bulking up on the weaponlockers (cores and primaries).

+1

dreamus is a bad map PERIOD. It is like Primeval but gayer imo. I never understood why people would play it. I would love for someone to enlighten me.

SweetTooth wrote:dreamus is a bad map PERIOD. It is like Primeval but gayer imo. I never understood why people would play it. I would love for someone to enlighten me.

There are very few truly bad maps. Everyone will like something, and everyone will hate something. Its REALLY hard to make a map that people will like and every new creation runs the risk of not being as popular as the ones you made before. This particular map has a lot of things going for it though if you like the style - some really good scorpion and hellbender action, spammy, small, lots of action. Contrast with something like Dryice where you can spend 40 seconds or more doing nothing but driving to a node, only to die in 5 seconds and have to do it again. Different people like different things.

I could quickly and easily knock up a Dreamus-SVA with no changes other than beefy lockers, less mines and Target Painters rather than Deemers. I think this would improve the map a lot. Anyone want me to proceed?

Gorzakk wrote: I could quickly and easily knock up a Dreamus-SVA with no changes other than beefy lockers, less mines and Target Painters rather than Deemers. I think this would improve the map a lot. Anyone want me to proceed?

I think that'd be cool, although I have to admit I've been hoping to incorporate some of my (and others') weapon/vehicle modifications on the map.

Examples:

I've got a modified Spider Mine Layer that lays Spider Mines that only actively attack vehicles. This solves my main issue with them in that people use the Spider Mines as some auto-homing rocket-launcher.

A grenade launcher that fires 20% faster but does 20% less damage per grenade - Grenades also fly faster. I feel this makes the grenade launcher a more viable weapon overall.

An improved BioRifle with 4-5 different firemodes*: Single shot, charged shot, charged shot spread, +Long Range Targeting mode, Altfire Biogoo stream. *Still have some modifications to do on this one, but everything works at the moment except the Altfire and some visual effects.

Fraghouse Ripper - Not sure how well this would work on this map but it's another option to bulk up the weapons lockers without just throwing a Flak/Shock into every locker.

Do it gorz!

WailofSuicide wrote:

Gorzakk wrote: I could quickly and easily knock up a Dreamus-SVA with no changes other than beefy lockers, less mines and Target Painters rather than Deemers. I think this would improve the map a lot. Anyone want me to proceed?

I think that'd be cool, although I have to admit I've been hoping to incorporate some of my (and others') weapon/vehicle modifications on the map.

Examples:

I've got a modified Spider Mine Layer that lays Spider Mines that only actively attack vehicles. This solves my main issue with them in that people use the Spider Mines as some auto-homing rocket-launcher.

A grenade launcher that fires 20% faster but does 20% less damage per grenade - Grenades also fly faster. I feel this makes the grenade launcher a more viable weapon overall.

An improved BioRifle with 4-5 different firemodes*: Single shot, charged shot, charged shot spread, +Long Range Targeting mode, Altfire Biogoo stream. *Still have some modifications to do on this one, but everything works at the moment except the Altfire and some visual effects.

Fraghouse Ripper - Not sure how well this would work on this map but it's another option to bulk up the weapons lockers without just throwing a Flak/Shock into every locker.

Custom weaps? Hey Toxic how about it? If you can supply the code for me WailofSuicide I'll embed them in with your permission.

As long as all of these mods can be embedded in the map, I'm all for it.

A ripper eh? Might be lots of fun in Bitchslap :drunken:

Rich (TW)

ToxicWaste wrote:As long as all of these mods can be embedded in the map, I'm all for it.

A ripper eh? Might be lots of fun in Bitchslap :drunken:

Rich (TW)

Funny I had the same thought...
Edit: Working on getting all the packages and everything consolidated to send over to you Gorz. Will send you some PMs later with more info.

You know, I was talking with Hornet off line, and he brought up some good points. I've had a channge of heart.

Dreamus is too good a map to mess with too much. Dreamus does not need a full makeover. It just needs a little lipstick.

I think we just need to stick with Wail's original suggestions (and get rid of the exploit. PM me if you don't know what it is) and I think that makes this map really great.

So in short, can we limit the mods to:

Beef up the lockers (and with a reasonable amount of ammo)
Get rid of the Deemer (nothing in it's place)
Reduce the number of spider mines
Fix the exploit

Now bitchslap, that's a POS. I don't care what you do with that :drunken:

Rich (TW)

Bitchslap, remove the tanks, I think the map
would play much better and not almost always go
into 3 rounds of overtime letting the server choosing
who wins. Cheap