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I've been saving some of my points on both server 1 and 2. Sometime today I've notice that my points have decrease dramatically for my stats (L menu). Both for some reason are saying -80 points? Can someone let me know what's going on?

Interesting,

I was going to post about that myself.
We seem to have two different conditions.
One is -35 and the other is -90.
I have know clue how to answer the players on this one.
Could something have been changed in cost or split somehow
to cause this? I have 4 cases of -90 and at least 2 cases of -35
If anyone has any Idea it would be helpful.
I have noticed that none of the players are higher levels so far nothing
over 200 to 250. Most are under 100.

What makes it worse is that it happened to me on both servers. If I earn any more levels pretty much I just go to a lower negative.

ack no, my DR! xD

not been on yet, will try it tonite.

Zaiaku, what is your character name and what server do you play on?


As for ability cost changes, no ability costs have been changed.
There was an issue with Resupply where I added back in a requirement for 50 Ammo Bonus that had always been in DruidsRPG, but I apparently forgot to add to the DWRPG version of this ability (meaning players were purchasing it without meeting the prerequisites, so at least some of the negative stat point cases are a result of that). However, in the current version I disabled the 50 Ammo Bonus requirement (unless Wraith enabled it himself, which I doubt).
So, some of these negative stat points reported over the past coupel of days probably had to do with that. The only potentially puzzling bit is that not all of them do.

Today in server 2 I spoke with a character who informed me he had -80 stat points. This is his character data from a couple days ago... Notice that his "Points Available" at this time is 0.

Level=90
WeaponSpeed=100
HealthBonus=160
AdrenalineMax=105
Attack=290
Defense=154
AmmoMax=25
PointsAvailable=0
Abilities=Class'DruidsRPG200.ClassWeaponsMaster', level 1
Abilities=Class'DWRPG.Ability_DWLoadedWeapons', level 2
Abilities=Class'DWRPG.Ability_DWAmmoRegeneration', level 4
Abilities=Class'DruidsRPG200.DruidVampire', level 4
Abilities=Class'DWRPG.Ability_DWHealthRegeneration', level 2
Abilities=Class'DruidsRPG200.AbilityEnhancedDamage', level 3

A level 90 character should have 890 total stat points. (89 x 10)
890
- 100 for WeaponSpeed.
- 160 for HealthBonus.
- 5 for MaxAdren.
- 290 for DamageBonus
- 154 for DamageReduction
- 25 for AmmoMax
- 1 for class
- 25 for LoadedWeapons 2
- 90 for Resupply 4
- 70 for Vampirism 4
- 35 for Regeneration 2
- 15 for AdvancedDamageBonus 3

Total = -80 points

So, even though he was actually at -80 points, the server was, prior to today when he reported this issue to me, telling him he had a balance of 0. I know that the server runs a check on player data and adjusts it appropriately after a server restart, so the fact that these issues show up is not that surprising to me. I know on my test server, for example, if I try to assign my level 25 test character 3000 stat points, it will reset them to 240 first.
What I don't know how it could allow players to buy more than they actually have to spend in the first place.

WailofSuicide wrote:Zaiaku, what is your character name and what server do you play on?

Both Server 1 and Server 2. Name on both servers is Zaiaku. Both servers are showing this as of yesterday. I started reloading my notebook wed, so not sure exactly when it started.

Zaiaku, this is your character on server 2 as of about a week and a half ago. [Before the latest round of DWRPG updates too, judging from this character sheet.]
At this time the server was reporting that you had 10 points to spend, but lets see how correct that is given the total stat points available to you at your level versus how many you spent to gain all your abilities.

Level=76
Experience=840
WeaponSpeed=50
HealthBonus=240
AdrenalineMax=175
Attack=50
Defense=50
AmmoMax=30
PointsAvailable=10
NeededExp=9158
Abilities=Class'DruidsRPG200.ClassAdrenalineMaster'
Abilities=Class'DWRPG.Ability_DWAmmoRegeneration', level 4
Abilities=Class'DWRPG.Ability_DWLoadedArtifacts', level 3
Abilities=Class'DWRPG.Ability_DWRecall', level 3
Abilities=Class'DruidsRPG200.DruidEnergyVampire', level 5
Abilities=Class'DruidsRPG200.DruidAdrenalineRegen', level 3
Abilities=Class'DruidsRPG200.DruidAdrenalineSurge', level 2
Abilities=Class'DWRPG.Ability_DWGhost', level 2


Your character should have 750 total stat points available (Level 76-1 x 10).
750
-50 WS
-240 HB
-75 Adren
-50 DB
-50 DR
-30 AB
-1 Class
-90 Resupply 4
-30 Loaded Artifacts 3
-75 Recall 3
-70 Energy Leech 5(2+8+14+20+26)
-24 Adren Drip 3
-10 Adren Surge 2
-65 Ghost 2

Total = -110

If you're getting -80 points that implies you levelled up a couple times already.

ok getting the same, something around 0 to -20, on MMA>TitanHugger server 1. I can't play again 'till I can earn because I got just below lvl xp.

With so many people getting this, this seems like alot of people were given points and now its catching up due to something on the server being changed. Ghost has changed so people who maxed that out saw the "price" drop but now more levels are there to max it out. I think this came to a result of "price" changes.

Another thing I'm noticing so far is that its either Weapons Masters but most Adrenaline master due to "price" changes being made for certain abilities.

Zaiaku wrote:With so many people getting this, this seems like alot of people were given points and now its catching up due to something on the server being changed. Ghost has changed so people who maxed that out saw the "price" drop but now more levels are there to max it out. I think this came to a result of "price" changes.

Ghost and a few other abilities changed approx. 1 year ago. If you haven't played in the interim period it's possible you are seeing the effects of those changes now.
As for changes in points cost between say, 2 weeks ago and now, no, none have occurred. As I pointed out, the version of your character I analyzed in my previous post was actually from a version prior to these latest updates. So the deficit was there first.

You are free to calculate the total points costs yourself if you don't believe me. And no, the issue is not solely relegated to WMs and AMs, nor is it solely negative points. The first error I heard of was a Medic receiving 90 points, but presumably we won't hear about the majority of cases where error checking is giving players points since no one is going to complain about that*.

* The ironic thing being that even though negative stat points appears "negative" it actually indicates your character currently has more abilities than he could have paid for, which is actually a positive thing for your character. The way I have explained this before is that it's essentially like an interest free loan -- You still have to pay it back, but you have the abilities now. Receiving points is more worrying, because it means you hadn't received points you had earned, for whatever reason.

As far as I can see the negative points issue for you came about due to built in error checking in UT2004RPG (what caused those errors is still TBD).

LeroyJonkins wrote:ok getting the same, something around 0 to -20, on MMA>TitanHugger server 1. I can't play again 'till I can earn because I got just below lvl xp.

I can't understand what you are trying to say.